Look what happens when a 20-year old clerk in a convenience store follows the ”strict ‘no ID, no sale’ policy” on liquor sales. With blessings from the store.
Shop staff refuse to sell whisky to great-grandmother, 92, because she couldn’t prove she was over 18. Daily Mail
Diane Taylor, a great-grandmother thrice, born in 1919, no longer owns a driver’s license or a passport, the only acceptable forms of proof of age with which alcohol can be purchased. She was unable to buy a bottle of whisky for her son.
It is just ridiculous to ask someone of my age to prove they are an adult, I find it offensive.
“I have never been asked for ID before in my life but then I turned 18 in 1937.”
“I produced what I had on me, my bus pass for which you have to be 60, my government issued OAP card, my pacemaker certificate, which has my name on it, and in sheer desperation I pulled out my vehicle disabled bag.
One normally might be flattered by the request for ID to prove age greater than 18, but an obvious great-grandmother appearance might well be a tell-tale sign they are actually older than 18, and can legally make the alcohol purchase.
Then again, if the purpose of the ‘no ID, no sale’ policy is purely to prevent sales to anyone without an ID, then mission accomplished.
Logic irrelevant.
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Pitiful- but in defense of the clerk- having worked in various liquor serving establishments it is a function of how the laws are written in each jurisdiction. Many states make it illegal to serve alcohol to ANY person without ID. The ABC in MA used it many many times to shut down nightclubs they considered a nuisance. The agents come in and order every patron to produce ID. Even ONE without a valid ID- underage or not- is enough for the ABC to shut the place down.
MA is crazy I know. They changed the law there to make it illegal to serve an intoxicated person- and the bartender PERSONALLY can be held liable. Great. So the patron has a few drinks at home and is on their way to drunkenness but not showing signs but the bartender is legally obligated to know this? My husband used to make a good living tending bar. Then MA got crazy and redistributed responsibility to the bartenders. SCREW that!
PA law uses a better wording- saying one can not serve a visibly intoxicated person. But the ID law is the same. No ID- no alcohol.
Our world has become one of irresponsibility gone wild. So those who should be held accountable, are given a free pass to let everyone pick up the fallout from their slacker ways. Those who should be allowed to run their business responsibly, are saddled with more responsibility of protecting everyone else from themselves, and pay up in hefty fines and punishment otherwise.
The irresponsibles of the world can get away without having to behave accordingly. Good judgment and responsibility have become irrelevant exercises from the business/servers side. Instead, just strangulate free enterprise to coddle the few/irresponsible from the many/responsible, along well drawn out lines of rules.
Another fine example of government bogging down business.
PMM, would that include foreign IDs?
ROFL mcnorman! MA actually has a list of approved ID’s. We got rid of some undesirables one time by asking for their green cards. ROFL!
Odd that a green card request would frighten someone away. Why, of why, oh why?????
PMM, approved IDs? Wow, I thought they gave everyone everything no matter what in MA.
Yup- approved ID. Valid driver’s license (the ABC issues a booklet to the bars so you can look at what every state license is supposed to look like- the MIT kids make every one- the going rate used to be 10 bucks) Passport. MA State ID. Valid military ID.
Not acceptable ID. Expired license or state issued ID. Birth certificate. SS card. Green card. School ID.
Crazy isn’t it?